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Starting & Starter Problems
New starters, substitutions, fitment problems.
Bosch; Valeo; Denso..... Starter motors. Overhaul?
Converting to/from Bosch, Valeo, Denso.
Starter relays, starter solenoids, notes, advice, etc.

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http://bmwmotorcycletech.info/boschvaleostarter.htm

For more information, specifically on starting problems:
http://bmwmotorcycletech.info/startingprobs.htm

Starters:

http://www.euromotoelectrics.com
Starters, alternators, plus all sorts of electrical parts for them and lots more.

http://Beemershop.com Owned by Ted Porter, one of the "guru's". Very knowledgeable.

Have one good recommendation, no personal experience:
http://www.discountstarterandalternator.com/c-212-motorcycle-starter.aspx
They also have discounted alternators for BMW bikes....in particular, K bikes.

How the starter circuits & associated parts function:

The starter motor is a powerful electrically operated motor. The starter motor may have to provide upwards of 1/2 to 1 horsepower in quite mild temperatures with modest compression engines.  In cold weather, even more power from the starter motor may be required. The starter motors in our Airheads, like all vehicle starters, are not very efficient motors. The Valeo is more efficient than the Bosch.  Quite a lot of amperes might be needed under some rather common conditions. Starter motors are, at best, 60% efficient due to magnetic field losses, friction losses, etc.

745.7 watts is DEFINED as ONE horsepower. If the system is a nominal 12 volts during cranking (typical, with good battery, wires, and connections, voltage as read at the starter terminals), then 745.7 divided by 12 equals 62 amperes. Due to the efficiency losses, & the need for many more amperes to BEGIN engine rotation, it is NOT uncommon to require twice that number of amperes.

What does 'not very efficient' MEAN? The power rating of the most powerful of the three Bosch units used on the Airheads was 0.7 KW. 0.7Kw is 700 watts; divided by 12 is 58 amperes. Not bad, eh? BUT, notice that the starter is also rated at 320 amperes. That is the supposed maximum drain under a severe load. That is equivalent to 3,840 watts....and is equivalent to a bit over FIVE horsepower. The battery, cold day, thick oil, so-so starter, ETC., may need to provide a LOT of power! If the battery is marginal, it may not have enough power to cause the starter motor to rotate the engine properly for starting.... possibly not rotate it at all.

There must be a means of switching on and off the large amount of electrical current to the starter. A heavy-duty solenoid-operated switch is physically located on the starter motor itself. It is a fairly large round cylinder with two electric terminals of the bolt/threads type and one small spade type which supplies a modest amount of electricity to the solenoid from the starter relay, located along the backbone of the motorcycle.  

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